Wednesday, 10 September 2014

Now here's a build you don't see every day!

 You need a bunch of confidence for a build like this...local rodder Tony Moore is well into this custom aussie bodied "sloper"....bringing back the 50s/60s trend of building a radical custom....I will let all these pics tell the story......just look at the thought and planning that has to go into hlding the body before it's cut..then deciding how to re-shape the panels, without losing it's "identity"..
 This, and heaps more customs are featured on Rik Hovings Custom Car Archives web pages...devoted to the history of custom cars.
sorry..added these as thumbnails..will attempt to make 'em bigger!..scroll down further, and it goes to some of the extra little pics..
















































Saturday, 6 September 2014

it's a frame up...some one help me......

 So...I'm sittin' their having big lunch, and I thought I may as well try the two different rails , just for my own curiosity....this has probably be done by hundrds before me, but I just have never heard or read how they all compare to stock henry..first up..ASC....you can see why you need a jig, as these are clamped to the front n rear uprights, but miss the centre by a 1/2" or more....
 And..as compared to the stock rails...I bolted the rear to the upright, but the ASC is out 1/2 a hole in the front....close enough, me thinks...
 So then I said to myself...why not bolt all three together while they sit on a common RHS...this should be interesting..
 Pretty good along here...notice the different width rails on ASC to the red JWs
 Here's wher it gets messy...the JW bolted up, fron and rear, but the ASC didn't want to play the game....it was even a bit twisted to the outside...that would make it a bit hard to clamp in the jig..and the droop was....droopier, if that's a word..
 Hmmm...scratches his head.....
 OK...so the bolt pattern must be right...but..hello....ASC seems to be out a bit..
 moving along...ignore the photo-bombing toes...
 JWs hump a bit more...also centr of hump is a little different on each...only 1/2" or so.
 Here's the stock firewall hole Henry and JW are on the same page....ASC back a tad
 Same half way along the frame....
 But then ..ASC has a win with the rear body hole...JW just off a bit..
 So..time to put JWs in the same jig...with the rails sitting on the bottom height location tabs, and adjusted for diagonal, it's close, not quite the same, just down a 1/2 a hole
 Rear is closer, but good enough I guess......well, I hope so....this is where I am going to start welding...diagonals are within 1/8th...while the heights/levels are just about the same...seems to be a compromise in a few places, but 1/8th" shouldn't worry it....especially when I checked my own sedan and found the front 1/2" narrower than what the plans say...must be a bit of tolerance, I'm hoping.
 Drug out every level I had in the place...all pretty good....fronts just about perfect.
 Rears a bit out, maybe 1/8th from the hump to the rear...not sure what to do......
Think I'll just leave it and weld it.....might tack a few bits on next week........
Fathers Day tomorrow...hope to see some of you at the coffee run......Victoria Point Lakeside shops at 7am until whenever...

Friday, 5 September 2014

so.....here we go again...just another 'glass deuce to build....

 Interesting when you start a new project like this.....a lot of research to make sure the frame goes together correctly....so, check some plans...but that's where you can get confused...I have these plans pictured, as well as the commonly used Wescott plans, and some others from various places...well.....they all differ ever so slightly....it's only an 1/8th inch here n there...but.I guess, close enough= good enough!
I first want to thank Malcolm Case for loaning me his stock mint 32 frame, as well as Ozrods for the loan of their jig...I need the frame to locate all the facory holes for a fendered car, but I took the time to drop Mals frame in the jig....to be sure....
Hmmm...some of these dimension differ on the two plans.....but onlu an 1/8th here n there.....Mals frame is obviously super straight, as all side to side..diagonals..etc. are all pretty well perfect..not bad for 82 years old!!..Hope I'm that straight when I'm that old!
You can never hve enough clamps..tape measures.levels..
Spreader bars.....I have this universal rear one I made for my last deuce roadster...it's made about 1/2" short, as that frame came from USA..supposedly a P&J jobbie, but the rear horns were only 39 1/2" wide....factory width is 40 1/8".......and get this....even though all the plans say 40" wide here...most spreader bars sold thru shops are short by either 1/4' or 3/8th....ummmmm..why?....................same goes for the front!
The jig and genie frame fitted and measured up easily, just a couple of packers her n there to get it darn near perfect...now I can try the ASC and JW rails in the jig, and start the welding..
Got the boxing plates organised..
JW on top with the "C" notch,,ASCs on the floor..
see....factory original spreader bar is a tad wider than what all the plans say, but it's obviously close enough...1/8th inch is all...
Here's another hiccup...just about every plan says the front should be 23 3/4" over-all....but with the factory spreader bar ,it's only 23 5/8th"...and if you go online to e buy and look up widths of spreader bars for sale...I found 23"..23 1/8..23 3/16,..23 1/4...but it obviously doesn't matter, as I checked my own tudor with a Melbourne fabbed frame, and it is only 23 5/16 over all......so I guess it doesnt matter, but I did pack the jig with a little spacer to get it to about ....close enough!!
square as...this is a nice frame........sure you want it back, Mal?
Haha...did you hear about the three spreader bares that turned up at the frame.......one of them fitted......
I have to address the strength in the "C" area, as all the forces exerted on the rear x member are behind the C...think I will start with a 4 or 5 mm plate insered inside before boxing...might even make it into a channel like Henry Ford did in late 32 frames

Tuesday, 2 September 2014

just a bunch of all sorts

 Cool old hot rod from way back..
 Coffee this Sunday..don't forget...
 In case you're interested......Superbell 46" vs So Cal 47"
 perch pins in same plac...SOCAL forged axle just a tad wider
 oldie....but cool!
 I say...finished!...love it..
 Likewise this later model gem..
 And the sad part of the day...a group of friends out with their cars...
 A Suburban cut across thru the oncoming cars...
 Sadly, Karen Pittinger lost her life, and husband Frank is in critical condition
 always pays to be aware....this happened at low speed, and still a bad result...so please take care out there.

Finally....I have a jig to start playing on the frame for the new 5 window...get some pics happening soon...